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  • sitting bull 14:00 on 2019-11-10 Permalink | Reply
    Tags: autobiography of a yogi, God, , , yogananda   

    Spiritual inspiration Sunday 6 

    Happy 🌞day, my dear readers, wherever you are!

    You might be puzzled that on one hand I do post spiritual insprationos, whilst on the other hand I am slagging of orthodox religions. This is because it took me decades to see the difference between the divine and an orthodox personalised creator–god, so today I would like to show you the difference between the god as we know him from orthodox religions, and the divine which does connect to you to the entire universe in a loving way.

    You can find the god of orthodox religions in the other post I did send simultaneously (or in the menu under spirituality -> religion, and the divine right below in this video).

    Whilst religions did a god job in the past to remind the oblivious mass of the divine by making god tangible in human form; at the dawn of what some call the new age, the divine is much more abstract and it can even become a hinderance to still cling onto obsolete teachings, instead of directly experiencing the divine.


    So if you are an atheist, don’t get hung up on the terminology “god” and him being male, and if you are religious don’t feel obliged to follow only the one book you were given in childhood – open yourself up anew for your connection to the oneness, which will transcend your entire reality.

    Here comes a beautiful description of the divine from a Yogi who did dedicate his life to serve as a bridge between orthodox Christianity and Indian Yoga.

     
  • sitting bull 15:06 on 2019-08-25 Permalink | Reply
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    OMG (Om, I, God) – the better half 

    The god-experiment part 2

    In part 1 I told you about the horizontal intellectual axis between
    Atheist / Agnostic <——————– vs —————–> orthodox Believer

    To explore the vertical intuitive Axis (which I will explain at the end),
    I seriously dedicated myself to the nebulous ‘divine’ (for 4 months now and ongoing)
    as described by an Iranian mystic of the 13th century;
    to explore the subject in the most global and versatile way possible:

    1. Putting god to a critical test from an Agnostic point of assuming nothing,
    2. following Gnosticism, which originated in Hellenistic Judaism
    3. inspired by an Islamic account of 9 months divine experience
    4. I used wisdoms I found in the Sikh ‘bible’ Siri Guru Granth Sahib,
    5. which is based on a combination of Hindu yoga techniques, such as prana yoga or Jalandhala Bhanda,
      implements a Bhakti tradition of worshipping the divine,
    6. and comes close to the Christian Jesus prayer,
    7. with a the Buddhist state of mind of non-attachment and exploring the absolute.

    I did this by the means of a yoga-prayer-meditation, called Sodarshan Chakra Kriya.
    Let’s first continue from part 1-3 on our journey through religions.

    4. the Eastern intuitive path

    The reason why ever more Westerners loose their faith in traditional religions and turn towards Eastern wisdoms, is that the Abrahamic religions lost their touch to spirituality and therewith merely offer the comfort of holding on to a straw of hope of being saved out of the misery of their suffering due to ignorance.

    In India there was never a need for such a power struggle, between one or many gods, because from the beginning,
    their broad range of believes, wisdoms and philosophies, allowed for thousands of deities, which do serve as manifestations of individual worship-needs or character trades, whilst above it all an unfathomable abstract higher intelligence called the OM was recognised .
    Since Westerners couldn’t grasp that versatility, the British did put all directions, which did tolerate and embrace each other, into the box of one religion they called Hinduism.

    Meanwhile in China:
    Around the 4th century BC Daoism emerged, which taught Yin & Yang, and with a rich wealth in non-religious understandings of the universe, such as the Tao Te Ching, the fortune telling principles of the universe I Ching (which goes back to 1000 BC), and the medical Texts Neijing and Nanjing which are the foundations of traditional Chinese Medicine.

    So Chinese culture proves that religion is not a necessity for our spiritual evolution.

    5. Mysticism vs faith

    Whilst in mainstream religions, the dogma of faith is usually a prerequisite of any bliss thereafter, the destruction of our intuitive faith, as described beforehand lead to secularisation, and its value being totally turned around:
    Before the Age of Reason, which ironically is called ‘Age of Enlightenment’; intuitive ‘knowledge’ did take predominance over objective rationality. Since then objectivity is taken as a guaranty for truth.

    Whilst this seems to be a progress, it came at a loss of the contact with our subconsciousness with detrimental effects:

    The marginalisation of faith into the realm a subjectivism, which is overwritten by objective science led to a twist of the terminologies “faith” and “knowledge“.
    Everything that we think to know by the means of science requires a believe in machines like micro- and telescopes, which we have to rely on for our knowledge of the micro- and macrocosm.

    You may have just skipped over that sentence, but hold on and think for a second: What do you really KNOW and what do you BELIEVE? You might be surprised.
    Nearly all scientific experiments (the ones which rely on machines), do require our belief in the accuracy of the correct display by those gadgets. So we believe in what our gadgets tell us, but don’t know our gut-feelings anymore.

    The conspiracy theory about a flat-earth is a perfect example of the subconscious fight of scientific knowledge vs own intuition.
    People lost contact with their own sense of reality , but also don’t trust the scientific dogmas anymore. So their egos rather create conspiracies, then admitting to themselves that they are simply lost and have to find new ways to reconnect to their self as well as to conduct science.

    Another example of the loss in intuition is our chronological interpretation of time, which first was propagated on the clocks of church-towers. Whilst the division of time is practical, useful and today essential;
    time, before clocks existed, did hot have today’s quantitative connotation, but was seen for its quality as a ‘good’ or ‘bad’ time and allowed to for the spiritual virtue of being ‘in the here and now’.
    (Astrology, for example, is the science about the quality of time).

    You can make an experiment and listen to contemplative music whilst looking at the time display – and then hide the display and continue listening. You then can sense time differently.
    Here is a suitable song I once composed, which you can use for it:
    (best listen with headphones or base-speakers)
    Whilst it plays, keep moving your mouse over the video, then let go of your mouse and as the timeline disappears keep listening how the music affects you in a non-linear fashion. You can repeat this a few times over the duration of this song.

    The Chinese Buddhist Huangbo Xiang from the 8th century did sum the difference between intellectual and intuitive understanding of ‘the divine’, which he did call ‘the absolute’ up brilliantly:

    The substance of the absolute is inwardly, like wood or stone, in that it is motionless,
    and outwardly like the void, in that, it is without bounds or obstructions.

    It is neither subjective, nor objective, has no specific location, is formless and can not vanish.

    Those who hasten towards it, dare not enter, fearing to hurdle down through the void, with nothing to cling to, or to stay their fall,
    so they look to the brink in retreat.

    This refers to all those who seek such a goal through cognition.

    Thus – those who seek the goal through cognition are the many, [like hair on a cow]
    while those, who obtain intuitive knowledge of the way are the few. [like horns on a bull]


    And finally now I get to let you know how the non-intellectual mystical approach towards god did so far manifest for me:

    In the entire 2.5 hours I sat, on average I usually only managed to fully focus for one tiny minute on this unfathomable abstract of god, which Sikhs call “Waheguru”.

    First I clinged on focussing on the word “Waheguru”, and after 3 months, when my impatient refusal to focus on this (nearly annoying, because ungraspable) subject slowly dissipated, I started to be immersed in temporary fields of focus,
    and after 4 months I sometimes descended into a state of trance which goes down the rabbit hole in different layers:

    1. Visual:
      Random archetypal images sometimes pop up (something spiritual beginners know from taking hallucinogenic drugs, or non-drug takers know from when not having slept up to the point of being severely over-tired).
      But the difference is that those are the same effects without dissolving my self, meaning that I am not prone to fate, carrying me wherever my subconscious just floats.
    2. Kinaesthetic:
      Deeper is the level in which I sense my electromagnetic energy-field expanding. You can imagine this field like your aura getting bigger. This has some mystical quality beyond intellectual morality. A neutrality which can be described in a dark way like Dracula or the Lord of the Ring at night in a castle surrounded by dragons, or in a light way as the majestetic serenity of huge angels (who often in the bible had to greet people with ‘fear not!’).
    3. Auditory:
      Thinking “Waheguru” for me is usually like hearing it in my brain. Only once within 25 years, I literally heared it out of my belly, meaning that my consciousness was literally centered.
    4. My eyes start to focus automatically towards the tip of the nose, which made me realise that the mention in the description of the Kriya were not meant as an instruction but as a description of the effect it has.
    5. The grainy picture you see when you simply close your eyes also gave a sense of an energy field surrounding me, like being in the midst of the vast universe of stars – at times the part in front of my eyes became brighter, either grey, white or blueish.
    6. Then a state of bliss and majestic serenity, occurs –
      yet again it can be compared to the relaxing aspect of smoking weed, but without that stupefying and numbing part.
      After experiencing it, I understood why highly spiritual evolved people don’t want to destroy that by engaging with others, whether to impress, nor to argue with them.
    7. Once I gave up an issue, to be solved by ‘the divine’. And due to letting this go, and allowing for literal “in-spiration”, this universal energy-field started to flow into instead of out from me and I realised that the expanding of my own aura in the previous points still was attached to an egocentric perspective of the world.
      I then learned why ‘the ego’ is shunned as a hinderance on the spiritual path.
    8. Other effects I felt was for example that my face somehow is much older than my body (and I am talking lifetimes here, not years).
    9. Longterm effects are:
      that over the years it took me to build up this exercise, I seem to have matured by one year within one month, so it corrected many discrepancies in me, which you can see in many people who are partly great and partly like a child.
    10. Overall there comes a deeper intuitive understanding of people which leads in a preventive course-correction before they even realise that I was on the way to annoy them.

    Considering that those were fruits of just having been able to focus for one minute – imagine what can be possible to the ones who manage to focus throughout an entire session!

    The similarity between the drug and the mystical experiences made me aware that (illegal as well as legal) drugs are only needed by the rigid minds who cling to their books and rules.
    Think about it: The word “ad-diction” translates from Latin to “cling onto words”.
    In German addiction means “Sucht“, which translated back into English as “seeking”.
    So addictives actually often are people with a high spiritual potential who simply seek for something, their soul longs for, but society did not offer them yet.

    I got a glimpse that as soon as someone manages to totally open up oneself for all the Qi, Prana, or energy literally miracles may happen.


    However – the difficulty to accomplish that, is that we first have to ridden ourselves from any kind of egotistical self-definition, something I did work on for 25 years and just reach the brink of sensing that there is something beyond.

    And the dilemma is that once we do open ourselves up for the universe,
    all previously hidden worldly entanglements float in first.
    So don’t expect results for quite a while – it could be decades to work through it;

    But then again – at the same time, it only takes a minute of pure focus to really dive into a glimpse of an entire world which can be expected afterwards. The hearing ‘Waheguru’ from my belly was an experience within the very first month after just having accomplished to do the Kriya properly.

    Even though I never had this experience anymore, this glimpse of clarity did show me that I am on the right path, and kept me going for more the remaining time of my life.

    So my conclusion is that you can’t actively force to find god,
    you can only allow the divine to flow right through you.

    Is obvious to us that a group works best, if some small part does not take on a life of its own – whether it is a member of a community or some cells in your body. So the first step to empty oneself for the overall energy flowing in, out and through.
    But that does by no means that you shan’t have the ambitions to be special, because every organ is unique and even must be it.
    To bring this contradiction (of allowing to merge with the absolute versus living out your own life) together,
    think of each organ needing the blood which flows through the entire body, whilst at the same time has to fulfil its own, and only its very own function – not the one of anyone else.

    As promised, I close this article by telling you the difference between the intellectual horizontal,
    and the intuitive vertical axis: If you take the A from ‘Agonisticism’, and the ‘v’ from ‘Believer’ as Arrows, to turn the axis like a dial clockwise, you end up with a new axis, …


    Agnostic <———————- vs ———————-> orthodox Believer

    … a second axis, which is not believers against non-believers anymore, but “experiencers” vs people who in latin are ‘at the word‘ (of their bibles) {as mentioned above = “ad-dicts”}.

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    AGNOSTIC <—————————-||————————-> GOD (Believe)
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    • JV Avadhanulu 1:02 on 2019-08-29 Permalink | Reply

      I am deeply grateful for the opportunity to read this article. I don’t know how to describe how I feel now. It is like some expansion within. Thank you, dear Thilo.

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      • sitting bull 1:06 on 2019-08-29 Permalink | Reply

        … and you don’t know how grateful I am for your responses.
        (Especially, since they are the only ones which came – to my own surprise)

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  • sitting bull 2:01 on 2019-08-23 Permalink | Reply
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    OMG (Om, I, God) 

    The god-experiment

    From birth on we are conditioned into belief systems and believe to knowthe ultimate truth“, assuming that all generations beforehand were fools. Yet the fact is that believes did change throughout history, so much even, that they did turn around not only by 180°, but that even multiple times.

    Most humans do get their own beliefs strengthened when being affirmed by others.
    In one way this is good, because fine-tuning ones own beliefs protects us from becoming deranged;
    on the other hand, however, this often leads to believers wanting to strengthen their community by proselytising others, which in the end leads to an ever growing emotional resistance from either members of another faith or atheists.

    This article deals with the horizontal Axis of
    Atheists < ————————- vs ———————> Believers in a personified God

    and therewith is a crossover post of two other series:
    1.) It is part 5 of the series: Keys to understanding the universe and connects straight to part 2: up, down, left and right,
    2.) And it is a continuation on the series about Religion.

    Instead of joining the countless, endless and useless ping-pong games of throwing back and forth individual opinions;
    I decided to approach this subject in a scientific way,
    starting from an agnostic point of not knowing whether god exists, and not accepting the circular reasoning of referring to a single religious book, in order not to favour any direction.

    In this article you will find an intellectual exploration of the evolution of monotheism,
    and in order to look at the issues from all angles,
    and in the next article I will deal with the intuitive part of the divne,
    and will observe the vertical axis between material vs spiritual consciousness .

    It took me an entire year to find an objective approach for this subjective matter.

    1.) the oneness in the womb.

    a.) The internal (esoteric) view correlating to the nervous system

    The history of religion shows that the first indices of religion were burial sites, which are an homage to “mother earth” and the internal self.

    There was Eru, the one are the first words of Tolkien’s the Silmarillion – the book which introduces the entire mythology of the Lord of the Rings.
    In the womb, initially everything is one,
    because there is no separation from the external world and the self.
    Bible: Genesis 1:2: “the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters“.

    “Man was created from clay”

    A shared view amongst Greek, Sumerian, Egyption, Hindu, Norse, Native American, African mythologies and contemporary superhero stories, such as Wonder Woman.

    b.) The external (exoteric) view

    Correlating to amniotic fluid is the scientific theory of the Soviet biologist Alexander Oparin from 1924 who proposed the theory of the primordial chemical carbon- based solution, which was triggered by an external energy source to form life.

    So human kind’s very first experience which shaped our deep instinct, is that there is a oneness which is larger than our body-self-perception.

    2.) The Sun

    After birth the senses, such as the eyes and ears evolve.

    Genesis 1:3 “And God said, “Let there be light,” and there was light.”
    John 1:3 “In the beginning was the Word”

    Two Bible-quotes shared by all 3 abrahamic religions: Jews, Christians, and Muslims

    The first impression usually is the strongest, so it is no surprise that when the first external influence enters our life it replaces our previous but undefined sense of self with an appreciation for the first reference point in our lifes.
    You only can define a size if you have at least two reference points, so whilst life in the womb was totally holistic, now came the time when we started to be able to perceive ourselves.

    Brahma: “let me have a self”

    Hinduism

    The most predominant external energy source to the earth obviously is the sun. This is how the atheistic as well as the religious views come together:

    Ancient enlightened Indians, called Rishis, did since a long time perceive the influence of the sun. When western people still were savages, they already knew that the sun was the source of the light of the moon, and the Sanskrit language already had time units which range from durations as small as the duration of light rays up to the vastness of the age of our universe.

    From there the teachings spread on one hand to Egypt in the form of the Sungod Ra

    Ra – Egyptian Fifth Dynasty (2494 to 2345 BCE) 

    … to the Iranian Zoreaster (also known as Zarathustra) – the founder of Zoroastrianism, a monotheistic religion from the 6th century BCE.

    Fare-e-Kiani is a symbol which represent a guardian angel called Fravashi

    … which obviously has some links to Egyptian symbology

    Around 2000 BC (long before the Christian cross existed), sun crosses emerged in Europe, during the Neolithic to Bronze Age periods.

    In the foremost sun-cross you can see how this evolved into the astrological sun symbol ☉

    Astrology btw is not the superficial future-telling pseudoscience it is made out to be in woman’s magazines, but the reflection of the elaborate ancient greek descriptions of the human personality by the means of deities, such as Mars for warlike energies or Venus for love.

    astrological symbol of the sun ^

    This 3 minute video shows that there was such a vast knowledge about astronomy,
    that many are convinced that higher evolved civilisations were in contact with ours.

    Regardless of whether those were aliens or humans: the existence of so much ancient knowledge does marginalise the version of a unique creator god to a mere option only.

    So how did humankind jump from a profound understanding of the universe to a version of “the one and only” god?

    3. The western personification of god

    The main reason why atheists cringe at the word “god” is because of the attached dogma of one being a ‘sinner’ who only is saved by salvation of a higher authority one has to belief in and be subservient to.
    This dogma, however is by no means as ancient as we are made to believe.

    My personal view is that planet earth, like our body,
    has a conscious and subconscious part,
    the former correlating to the north-west and the latter to the south-east.
    So whilst the East did approach this subject by subscribing to intuitive experiences of wise people;
    in the West, intellectual dogmata became predominant:

    This is maybe why spirituality intuitively was understood in the South-East, whilst in the North-West it had to undergo a myriad of god concepts and misunderstandings.

    The decline of Western strength and intuition

    In the past, westerners also intuitive knew what was right and wrong.
    They feared not to act upon their values, and their faith of the afterlife, which was as strong as knowledge made them not fear of death.

    Old western religions initially had a very good intuition for gender roles, the place of when to use female yin and male yang, and a clear sense for justice.

    Our natural intuition was forcefully replaced by the means of religious wars with the dogma of one personified higher force, designed to cultivate an obedience towards authoritative institutions in order to guarantee devotees.

    Up to this day witchcraft, magic and paganism are shunned by Christianity and Islam, and western spirituality is marginalised into the corner of occultism – a word, which to mainstreamers equals ‘darkness’, whilst the true meaning of the word means ‘hidden’ (as you can see in the medical term ‘occult blood‘.


    The western spiritual traditions and secret orders:

    Since occultism nowadays is marginalised into secrecy,
    here is a 1-paragraph-summary of this incredible vast subject:

    Most Western paths stem from the tradition of the believe in the sun as mentioned above, which was re-cultivated by the pharao Akhenaten – as the name implies “the prayer to the sun (Athon).

    From here many mystery schools, such as the Rosicrucians, the Freemasons, emerged,
    and out of them mixtures, such as the Ordo Templis Orientis arouse,
    which bright spirits, such as Rudolf Steiner, but also dubious ones, such as the black magician Alestair Crowley, or the founder of Scientology Ron Hubbard were members of.
    Helena Blavatski together with Steiner created a synthesis of Eastern and Western knowledge, the Theosophic society.

    My personal experiences:
    The most spiritual orders are A.M.O.R.C and the Servants of the light,
    And people who don’t like orders may read Steiner, who held very unique speeches about spirituality.

    Freemasonry with its men-only-policy is antiquated,
    and it’s old boys network ethically dubious for distorting fair chances for non members by giving theirs significant advantages.
    Crowley (who was very spiritual advanced and versatile) and Hubbard, both unfortunately descended into egotism – Scientology’s book ‘Dianetics‘ is nothing more than a fashionable conglomeration of OTO-knowledge.

    The question now is why and how the occult holistic understanding of a monotheism, directed at the sun was turned towards a personified god.

    The following 25 minute video excerpt explains how mankind’s planetary wisdom was perverted into a humanised version of a creator god:

    Due to our contemporary subscription to merely worldly values, people nowadays are afraid to loose material values, such as their possessions or their body – both values which are limited to this life only.

    The fear of death did evolve into society which at first seems to protect the weak,
    but in the longterm is full of pathological norms which allow for devious but spineless lawyers, politicians, and business people to dominate strong and authentic warriors.

    True male powers, such as a courage to stand up for ones’ opinion today are replaced with cowardice hiding behind political correctness, female virtues such as poise, dignity or serenity are channeled into a destructive feminism, which is more concerned in copying and accusing men, than to shine as a true woman, and our access to god(s) is degraded into empty rituals performed by self-declared authorities.

    To finish part 1, I leave you with a fascinating rarely known Western version of human evolution:

    part 2 can be found here>

     
    • JV Avadhanulu 0:41 on 2019-08-29 Permalink | Reply

      This is a stunning, orginal, mindblowing article. I am in awe of your grasp of spirituality , right form its origins and the evolution of Abrahamic religions. Thank you for educating me.

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      • sitting bull 0:46 on 2019-08-29 Permalink | Reply

        Thank you, dear JV, I hope you see my reply.

        I was literally waiting for you to read this article, since you are my most faithful and advanced reader with whom I feel to currently have the strongest connection.

        Especially when only few do read my articles, your comments totally change the climate for me.

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  • sitting bull 3:57 on 2014-11-16 Permalink | Reply
    Tags: breath, God, , research, Siri Guru Granth Sahib, , sources   

    Some ancient roots of Sodarshan Chakra Kriya 

    Everyone believes in something – I do believe in a Pranayama Kundalini-Yoga-Exercise called Sodarshan Chakra Kriya, because it promises to balance out the entire energy.

    On further research some people who are not in alignment with Yogi Bhajan’s teachings and 3HO-organization seriously doubted that this Meditation; which I put (since the last 4 and for the 4 years) all my efforts into;
    would not be an authentic ancient yogic exercise, but a made up Kriya from Yogi Bhajan.

    This was worse for me than having personal patience issues with the meditation (and believe me I was challenged many times to practice consistently). Over the last 20 years my entire spiritual focus was on trying and failing and trying again to accomplish SCK; and for the last thousand days I  did already build the Kriya up to over an hour.
    I did even sacrifice my entire social-life and career in order to be able to complete Sodarshan Chakra Kriya. And suddenly it turns out to potentially be as fake as weapons of mass-destruction in Iraq or our entire money system? I was really worried that I had directed my entire life into Yogi Bhajan’s personal invention.

    So I sat back and contemplated what to do:
    The first step was to continue my 1000 days, because I always would be able to drop it at a later stage, but I would not be able to reclaim the 68 days I already did, if I stopped it now.
    I also remembered that this exercise had some strong benefits for me – so even if it was all made up, there definitely was something valuable in it.

    So whilst I continued to do practice daily, I did mail to a bunch of people who run other Sodarshan-Chakra-Kriya websites, someone repied that SCK would be referenced in the Sri Granth Sahib, so I did searched an online version for a simple part of the instruction – the phrase “left nostril” and found the following: at srigranth.org :

    • The breath is drawn in through the left nostril;
    • it is held in the central channel of the Sukhmanaa,
    • and exhaled through the right nostril,
    • repeating the Lord’s Name sixteen times

    Considering that “Wahe Guru” ist the Sikh name for God, this comes close to Yogi Bhajan’s instruction:
    Block off the right nostril with the right thumb.

    • Inhale slowly and deeply through the left nostril and
    • hold the breath.
    • Mentally chant ‘Wahe Guru” 16 times, while pumping the navel point 3 times with each repetition (once on ”Waa”, once on ”hey”, and once on ”Guru”) for a total of 48 pumps.

    Unblock the right nostril and use the right index or pinkie finger to block the left nostril.

    • Exhale slowly and deeply through the right nostril. Continue, inhaling left nostril, exhaling right.

    Simultaneous to my findings Sat Avtar Kaur found in mrsikhnet.com:
    Here is a meditation described in Siri Guru Granth Sahib on page 1106 by Bhagat Jai Dev ji that was taught by SSS Harbhajan Singh Khalsa Yogi ji on August 1991. I just realized that only two shabads are in Siri Guru Granth Sahib by Bhagat Jai Dev and one of these two was him sharing his experience of this meditation.
    I looked up which shabads he refers to
    So far I can see following lines which somehow correlate with SCK:
    On page 526:
    ਗੋਬਿੰਦ ਗੋਬਿੰਦੇਤਿ ਜਪਿ ਨਰ ਸਕਲ ਸਿਧਿ ਪਦੰ ॥
    गोबिंद गोबिंदेति जपि नर सकल सिधि पदं ॥
    Gobinḝ gobinḝėṯ jap nar sakal siḝẖ paḝaʼn.
    Meditate on the Lord of the Universe, the Lord of the Universe, O man; He is the source of all the spiritual powers of the Siddhas.
    And as mentioned above on page 1106:
    ਚੰਦ ਸਤ ਭੇਦਿਆ ਨਾਦ ਸਤ ਪੂਰਿਆ ਸੂਰ ਸਤ ਖੋੜਸਾ ਦਤ੝ ਕੀਆ ॥
    चंद सत भेदिआ नाद सत पूरिआ सूर सत खोड़सा दतढ़ कीआ ॥
    Cẖanḝ saṯ bẖėḝiĝ nĝḝ saṯ pūriĝ sūr saṯ kẖoṛsĝ ḝaṯ kīĝ.
    The breath is drawn in through the left nostril; it is held in the central channel of the Sukhmanaa, and exhaled through the right nostril, repeating the Lord’s Name sixteen times.

    So it seems that this is the proof that Sodarshan Chakra Kriya has some roots at least in the Sri Guru Granth Sahib.

    Having just seen more verses I assume that yogis either wrote those verses or took several texts spread out in the SGGS in order to fuse them together to entire Yoga-Kriyas or sets.

    • – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – –

    Some sources I spontaneously found were:

    Page 905, Line 7
    “The Yogi draws the breath upwards, and opens the Tenth Gate.
    He practices inner cleansing and the six rituals of purification.
    But without the Lord’s Name, the breath he draws is useless.”
    Guru Nanak Dev
    This is a clear reference to the Mantra “Wahe Guru” as well as the necessary believe in god which I will tackle in another article.

    • – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – –

    Page 333, Line 3
    ultat pavan chakar khat bhayday surat sunn anraagee.
    “I turned my breath inwards, and pierced through the six chakras of the body, and my awareness was centered on the Primal Void of the Absolute Lord.” – Bhakta Kabir –
    Relates to: Holding the breath, pumping the belly & mentally chanting “Wahe Guru”.

    • – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – –

    Page 991, Line 16
    soor sar sos lai som sar pokh lai jugat kar marat so san-banDh keejai.
    “Heat up the sun energy of the right nostril, and cool down the moon energy of the left nostril; practicing this breath-control, bring them into perfect balance.”
    Guru Nanak Dev
    The thumb is correlates to the thumb which heats up and the index finger to the Jupiter (and as it seems the Jupiter cooles down the left moon nostril).

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    Page 359, Line 8
    man motee jay gahnaa hovai pa-un hovai soot Dhaaree.
    “If the pearl of the mind is strung like a jewel on the thread of the breath,…”
    Guru Nanak Dev
    This could be a reference to pumping the belly, hence directing the mind down the threat of the breath.

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    The following quotes also emphasize on the importance of breath and a dedication to the divine. I saw Sikhs fighting amongst Kundalini-students because former focus on the believe in god and latter in the technique of the practice. It seems that both are essential for a spiritual sucess:

    Page 969,
    “Joining the two channels of the breath, I have lit the furnace, and I drink in the supreme, sublime essence.” – Bhakta Kabir –

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    Page 972
    “The mind, the master of the breath, abides in the state of supreme bliss. There is no death, no re-birth, and no aging for me now. || 1 |
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    | Turning away from materialism, I have found intuitive support. I have entered into the sky of the mind, and opened the Tenth Gate. The chakras of the coiled Kundalini energy have been opened, and I have met my Sovereign Lord King without fear.”

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    Page 1123, Line 13
    ree kalvaar gavaar moodh mat ulto pavan firaava-o.
    “You barbaric brute, with your primitive intellect – reverse your breath and turn it inward.” – Bhakta Kabir –

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    Page 1365, Line 8
    kabeer maa-i-aa dolnee pavan jhakolanhaar.
    “Kabeer, Maya is the butter-churn, and the breath is the churning-stick.”
    Bhakta Kabir

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     I also wrote an article about a fascinating 800 year old source – 200 years older than the Siri Guru Grant Sahib, where a christian gnostic version of Sodarshan Chakra Kriya is described here.

    This means that you now have the choice to modify Sodarshan Chakra Kriya to your own believe if you understand its principles – this is what Yogi Bhajan or some Sikhs have done – they altered ancient Pranayama Techniques to implement it in their believe system. So even Jews, Muslims or any Religion whatsoever should be able to utilize this knowledge. Contact me if you want to work it out for your own religion and I will do my best to help with my experience.

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    When asking Ravi Singh & Ana Brett that according to the tantra shastras, Sodarshan Chakakra Kriya can purify your past karma and the subconscious impulses that may block you from fulfilling one, they mailed me:

    “In the Sharada Tilaka Tanta a proto-version of So Darshan Chakra Kriya is described:
    Inhale through the left nosril (concentrating on the left side of the spine) for 16 counts. Hold the breath for 64 counts guiding energy into the central channel of the spine (shushumna). Exhale through the right nostril for 32 counts.
    It states that this can be done with or without a mantra recited mentally.”

    Since in Kriya Yoga one also should breath in 4 beats, hold the breath for 16 beats and breath out 8 beats, it seems that one yogi secret is the ratio of breathing in to holding to breathing out being: 1:4:2.
    Hence I will try breathing in thinking 4x “wahe guru” (which is 12 beats),
    pump 16x as instructed while holding the breath (48 beats)

    • the pumping seems equilvalent to guiding energy to the spine)

    and breath out thinking 8 times “wahe guru” (not pumping my stomach on the breaths).
    This then is equivalent to a 1:4:2 ratio.

    I know one should not add anything to the kriya, so I won’t recommend it to others,
    I just experiment with it in order to see if I can find the common breathing ratio.

     

     

     
    • Amy 3:37 on 2018-07-05 Permalink | Reply

      This is all so interesting! Wow thank you. Curious – do you know anything about the Art of Living courses which teach something they call Sudarshan Kriya? I’m assuming it’s based on SCK. Do you know anything about this organization?

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      • sitting bull 3:50 on 2018-07-05 Permalink | Reply

        Thanks – I did start a longterm project doing SCK and whilst doing research my philosophy was that I might as well share all informations with everyone, because it is not mine in the first place.

        There is a guy here commenting called David Cook. He did some research about it recently.
        You can reply to him or wait for him to contact you, because I will send him your comment and webadress.

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    • David Cook 5:39 on 2018-07-05 Permalink | Reply

      Amy, I am sure they are the same thing. I would look at the 3HO version of this kriya https://www.3ho.org/kundalini-yoga/pranayam/pranayam-techniques/sodarshan-chakra-kriya
      as the original. There are many, many descriptions of this meditation available but they mostly stick pretty closely to this version. It is not easy to do at first, and requires some practice, but with patience and persistence, the results will come. Most will say try this daily in the morning, making time before breakfast.
      Best wishes – Thilo and I encourage your questions about SCK as it has had a big effect on our individual lives.

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      • sitting bull 20:37 on 2018-07-05 Permalink | Reply

        David, I think she meant the “Sudarshan Kriya”, which often is mistaken even by search engines for Sodarshan Chakra Kriya.
        I just realized that by accident about 30 years ago I think I attended one of their events with Ravi Shankar himself who looked into everyones eyes for a few seconds.
        I can not say much, since I was a total newbie then, and 2 decades later when Sai Baba did look me into the eyes in a simmilar manner when looking each person in the crowd from a distance, it was much stronger, but maybe by then I was more receptive to it.

        However I think you are right, David, in the end both seem to be kriya yogas with pranayama inbuilt – just as Sodarshan Chakra Kriya is, so I feel that it comes down to the same results in the end.

        The only thing I don’t like so much with them is them patenting this kriya and trying to sue bloggers who criticised them publicly.

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    • David Nolan Cook 23:46 on 2018-09-10 Permalink | Reply

      Yeah, they appear to be different in some ways, but many similarities also; I suspect they are from the same original source with cultural and geographic differences.

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    • Susan 16:02 on 2018-12-21 Permalink | Reply

      Hi again Thilo, was looking for something to read on SCK and came across this blog of yours from 2014. Interesting read! I’ve been able to extend my 11 minutes to about 14/15 per day. Have a little more time to put into my practice over next few weeks. Though I continue to feel the challenges of doing this meditation I’m feel a natural internal kind of ‘draw’ to keep going. I really love the way it draws me inward to being with myself more deeply. I’m now feeling a responsibility to somehow help my daughter to get to like K Yoga, maybe not this meditation but at least something. Young people seriously need this kind of thing to divert attention from drugs and alcohol.

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      • sitting bull 16:43 on 2018-12-21 Permalink | Reply

        Hi Susan, thanks for your comment – it is always inspiring to see that others out there do appreciate my work. Congratulations on your 14 minutes – this is a shift of a third already, so I would suggest for the next 120 days to not do more than 21 minutes – this way you should have accomplished to do 120 days of 3 and 11 minutes respectively before even considering to enter the 22 minute realm. Even if you keep it under 18 minutes for another year, you are perfectly on the path of doing 6 minutes more yearly.

        The difficulty for you to inspire your daughter to do what you already teach is that a t(w)een wants and needs to make their own experiences in order to find themselves, so sometimes mutual evolution between a parent and sibling coincides, but often also doesn’t – which in fact doesn’t mean anything, because she’s “a chip of the old block” anyway, so common trades will show sooner or later.
        Actually – especially for young people i started to write the yoga-course on the top-left of this site, in which I will tell everyone very honestly about all my faults and mistakes, because I think that rebels don’t want to be fooled and rather take the advice from someone who had problems than from bigots who try to sell their path as the perfect one.
        So if she at all is inclined to take a look into the spiritual world, you can tell her to look at the first 3 steps of the meditation-project and if she likes it to bookmark it or subscribe, because the course is just starting to guide people slowly into a daily practice of SCK.

        But if that is not her thing I fully understand, because there are uncountable ways to approach enlightenment from different angles and no one could have told me to go their way when I was younger myself.

        Getting back to your own challenges:
        I will get into this in much more depth throughout the next year, because SCK is like dissolving your entire self-image like a caterpillar only to come out of the other end as a butterfly, but most people can’t take that. However – simply knowing that it is possible to get through it, can make us reach unknown territory we never would have deemed possible to ever experience.
        So keep doing your 12-18 minutes throughout next year and you will have accomplished 1000 days already! It’s winter-solstice today – a great day for rebirths and inspiring resolutions.

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